Gold is Money and You’ll Get Your Pay Day – Lobo Tiggre

We’ve reached that ‘aha’ moment where more people are starting to see that a small allocation to a safe haven like gold is not a bad idea, says Lobo Tiggre, analyst and author of Independent Speculator. He tells Daniela Cambone that a theory for the rise in gold prices this year could be that it’s not just China or other central banks buying gold. “Central banks and the Global South have been buying gold for years. That doesn’t explain the change this year,” he explains. He also notes the trend of depolarization and shares a personal anecdote from the 1960s, recalling how he once sold silver peso coins for food.
CHAPTERS:
00:00 U.S. debt
6:30 Gold standard
8:57 Uranium
14:15 Silver
15:26 Gold -dollar exchange rate
19:48 Gold stocks
24:47 Why gold?
TRANSCRIPT FROM VIDEO:
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Gold is money, has been for thousands of years. I know I’m not the first one to tell you that. It’s gold versus dollar. Like where do I want my savings? How much do I trust the greenback? More and more people are starting to say, you know what? A little bit of allocation to a safe haven line gold is not a bad thing. Probably if you’re watching this interview, you do expect the gold dollar exchange rate to go higher and you want your freaking gold stocks to go even higher. I think you’ll get your payday.
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01:29
Still on the road here in Boca Raton, Florida. We are day two of covering the Rick Rule, a natural symposium conference, really one of the go-to events of the sector. And I’m joined today by the independent speculator. You can find them on independent speculator dot com. Lobo Tigre Lobo. So good to be reunited with you after years of interviewing you. Yes. As your long term fans know, one of your first interviews with Kitco News. You’re taking us back. We will not say how long ago.
01:58
We can, it’s been over 15 years. I just started very young, Globo. That’s right. We really go back. Man, we’ve come a long way. So congratulations on all your success. And, you know, obviously your fan following and everyone that really, really follows your work religiously. And I’ve been following you, obviously, for a long time. And one of the recent penings I wanted to start with is your comments on how the US.
02:24
was able to get out of debt after the War of 1812. We’ve been speaking so much about the debt we have today. Why can’t it be the same? Well, yeah. So first, there’s a tweet pinned, well, it’s not a tweet anymore. It’s a post on X pinned on my Twitter account, my X account. On your account. It has this animated chart. Yes. And the idea is, like you see the US national debt from the beginning and it starts high. We just had the Revolutionary War,
02:55
Right? You know what I mean? Yeah. OK. And so you see this pile of debt. And then they pay it off. Or they’re paying it off. Which is, this gets to the answer to your question. Like, why would that even happen? It’s a sign of the times, you could say. I think it’s a cultural thing. In those days, people understood that debt is bad. Debt, by the way, MMTers, is not money. Nor is it the basis of money. Debt is a burden. It’s a bad thing that if you can, you pay off with real money when you have it. Right? So.
03:23
Everybody understands that when you have debt, the person you owe the money to owns you until you pay it off. Anybody with a huge mortgage knows this. So they’re paying it off, and then the War of 1812 hits, and it skyrockets. And that debt, that mountain of debt becomes like a little foothill, and it skyrockets. And then this was what was gobsmacking to me, is they actually over the years and decades after that, pay it that off, like completely.
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take the national debt to zero. Can you imagine zero national debt? No. Like inconceivable. And then civil war, you know, you have the Mexican-American war as we call it in the United States. By the way, Mexicans call it the American invasion. In the 1840s, warm up civil war. And then, so like that huge pile of debt from 2000, sorry, 1812 that looked giant before. Now that becomes this tiny foothill compared to the civil war. And you go, well, of course, the civil war.
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brother against brother, it’s gotta be huge. And as huge as that is, over the next decades, with reconstruction and everything, devastation on American soil, they’re still paying down the national debt. They got like halfway there after the Civil War. And then you get into whatever crises, the Fed first, by the way, and then World War I. And that previous mountain now becomes this tiny foothill that you barely see compared to how high the debt goes in World War I.
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And then it starts coming down. And then you get the Great Depression and World War II. And that previous mountain becomes this tiny fly speck compared to World War II. And then guess what? We all know how this goes. World War II ends. They start working on a bit, but not much really. We’re now sort of in the modern world. The rest of the world has already dumped the gold standard and it’s just the dollar. That’s as good as gold, right? Right. And then 1971, tricky Rick Dixon. Tricky Dick.
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Richard Nixon de-goldizes the dollar, takes off the gold standard. And then all of these previous things just disappear as the debt goes vertical. So I’ll let you go. But to answer the question is, and this is sorry, it’s a bit of a sad answer, that different time, different place, people understood money then. They knew what real money is. You could hold it in your hand and it had weight.
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defined weight. And debt was bad. The people you own the money to, the midichis, the bankers, whoever, they owned you. And they got rid of it as fast as they could. Nobody believes that anymore. Modern economics teaches us the opposite. And fiat currencies tell us that it’s the good faith and credit of the government. That’s what money is. Or the
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Why would you pay it off in a world like that? But reality matters, sorry, and it will. The piper will get his due. Yeah, I mean, it’s crazy how the mindset completely shifted. So what happens if we were to return to a gold standard? I mean, is that even a possibility for you? Not without a lot of pain, but yes, I actually think it not only can, but will happen.
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Now here’s one of those Rick Rule things, we’re here at Rick’s show, got to quote Rick, you know, never confuse the inevitable with the imminent, lose a lot of money doing that. And I’m sure you’ve talked to Brent Johnson, the Dollar Milk Shake Bank. Yes, yes, yes, we just had him on, yeah. Okay, so I almost hate to say it, as a hard money advocate, as a person who’s personally used metals, you know, gold and silver, silver particular, in an emergency, as that ultimate source of liquidity.
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actually had that experience in his life of hard money saving him from multiple deflations and financial catastrophe. And your personal. In my personal life, that’s actually happened. Mexico has chopped a few zeros off its currency a few times. The United States hasn’t gotten there yet, but it will. So I think Brent is right in that, yes, the dollar is garbage. Yes, the dollar is days or numbers. No fantasy can last forever, but it’s going to take a long time. Yes.
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And so people want to hate him for being anti this, anti that, but he’s actually not. He’s not anti gold. And he’s not actually pro the fantasy that’s the dollar. He’s just saying, don’t kid yourself. This will take a long time for the empire to unwind and its currency. The Piper must be paid sooner or later, but that doesn’t mean it’s sooner. It certainly doesn’t mean when your favorite gold stock should go up according to you. So you’ve got to separate these things.
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And I honestly, you know, I really think that you take these big macro megatrend things, they’re interesting, they help us understand the world, but they’re not investable. You just put them aside as not theoretical knowledge, but historical context that influences colors your thinking, helps you understand what’s going on. But then you look at what’s happening now. Forget the inevitable. Let’s…
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focus on the imminent and then even more my thing is to focus on what’s happening now. What are the trends that are happening now and which ones are investable, which ones are durable? So let’s talk about that. What are you seeing? Okay. So completely switching yellow metals, I think the uranium trend is extremely strong. I’ve said repeated times and I really believe this. I think it would take a Chernobyl scale event to derail the uranium thesis because…
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just like the fundamental bare bones basic is that, you know, 20 percent, 19, 20 percent of the US’s electricity is nuclear, it’s 80 percent in France. It’s a large chunk of the world’s energy comes from nuclear now. There is no substitute. Sorry, not thorium, not any other thorium. It’s uranium for now. And so it’s necessary now. And the secondary supply is gone.
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And that alone, supply and demand, tells you. But then the demand side is going nuts. The Chinese and the Indians, the India, Bricks, whatever, they’re building them as fast as they can. So there’s a strong demand side story here. Even Europe, despite Germany, has done a U-turn on this, and particularly the very practically minded people in Eastern Europe, they wanna build them as fast as they can. Ukraine just signed a contract. Even Ukraine in the middle of the war is going nuclear. And then you’ve got the West.
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dragging its feet, but reading the writing on the wall, or even the US, even the former opposition to nuclear energy in the US, the Democrats, and seeing uranium as part of the solution. Is it maybe a necessary evil, nuclear power? But climate change panic, there’s people who think we’re all going to die in 12 years, or is it 11 or 10 now? I forget. But we’re all going to die if we don’t stop oil now. And even…
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you know, with the most aggressive adoption of windmills and solar power possible, you still can’t do it without nuclear. I mean, that’s just math, and people are starting to see that. And so the demand story is going nuts right now, where even the most, you know, obstinate opposition, or even Japan, where Fukushima happened, has done a U-turn and is restarting their nuclear power. Even Korea did a U-turn, you know, going back to nuclear. But then you come back to the supply side.
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and the supply just isn’t there. It’s constrained and okay, the world’s two biggest producers are ramping up, but that’s not enough and they’re having problems. So this isn’t just imminent, it’s not just inevitable. Like this is what’s happening now. As you and I speak, we’re waiting to hear, it’s July 2024 for future audiences, right? And Kazanprom, the world’s largest and lowest cost producer yanked its guidance for this year, 2024.
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and they defer guidance on next year, 2025, even though we’re halfway through, they’re supposed to tell us what they’re gonna produce next year real soon now. Have they solved any of the problems that have caused them so much trouble? I don’t think so. So I’m not saying, you know, tomorrow uranium’s going to the moon, don’t get me wrong. I’m just saying happening now is supply constraint on top of this. And just let’s take a step back for those in my audience who are maybe never even thought of uranium. I mean, it’s a very opaque.
12:04
markets, there’s money, it’s not like gold that you could get a lot of news and information from this market. And you don’t go down to your local coin shop and pick up a part. Right, so it’s priced in pounds, so right now we’re at around, what is it, 80? 80 a change. So what’s your, where could you see uranium headed just for context? I brought this up as an example, by the way, we don’t have to make the whole show a uranium show, but I brought this up as an example, and so I just, because I want to put a period at the end of the sentence. Okay. As an example of…
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a very powerful investable trend that you see happening now. This is happening now. And I gave an example, one, of a catalyst that’s due more or less immediately. And there are others that are due this year. So this is what I mean by forget about inevitable, set aside what’s imminent, look at what’s happening now. This is happening now. And by the way, I think gold is happening now too. But that’s an example. So where could the price go? My answer is actually two. One, because the supply is constrained.
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it can go much higher than it needs to go. I would actually say that the price we’re at now is the price that’s needed to incent new supply, new production. It’s, you know, at 85 bucks plus or minus, we’re in a range where the lower or the better producers, lower cost producers and the better projects, they all work. And those projects are coming along. People are building new uranium mines now. That is also happening now. Of course it takes years.
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But it started, right? High prices have started to pure high prices, another Rick Rule quote. But that’s gonna take years while the demand is already there and ramping up. So I’m very bullish. And because the supply cannot respond quickly.
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That means the price can go higher than it should. So I don’t have a target for it. I mean, I’m happy to get the direction right. We are in a consolidation phase now. I do think we’ll see another breakout. I think it will go substantially higher. Triple digits is easy. That’s not a crazy, wild, arm-waving prediction. And I think that would be very good for uranium stocks. Well, let me segue there. If triple digit uranium’s not crazy, what about triple digit silver?
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That’s actually if you inflation adjust the previous spikes to 50 bucks on silver, particularly the 1981, you’re looking at triple digit silver. Now remember, those are spikes. That’s not the long-term average price. So that’s not to say that silver should go to and stay at triple digit prices. But could it spike that? Sure. You’re bullish. So are you more bullish silver versus gold? Let’s go there.
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But let me finish answering the question about uranium and I will remember this. So what I was saying is I am bullish on the price. I do think that squeeze, if you will, not Wall Street, but like the real world squeeze can send uranium prices much higher than they should or you need to go. Like they actually don’t need to go higher. This is the point I was trying to make is with the right companies that can make money at 40, 50, or even 60 or even 70.
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Uranium all in if they can make money all in 70 and we’re 85 they’ve got margin So the better companies make money and become investible. Well speaking about margin then let’s talk gold price I mean, this should be the glory days for the miners here. That’s a good segue. Okay, so first I gotta say I never say gold price. I always say gold dollar exchange rate Okay, as in my mind gold is money has been for thousands of years. I know I’m not the first one to tell you that and therefore
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Gold versus dollar is a 4x question in my view. And that’s not just being pedantic or theoretical. I think that’s really important that people remember that gold is money and treat it that way. And I think the world is actually remembering that now. And I think that’s part of the answer to your question. It’s not the price of gold, like the price of copy or even copper, it’s gold versus dollar. Like where do I want my savings? How much do I trust the greenback? And in this world, more and more people
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The weaponization of the dollar, I’m not the first one to tell you that, I’m sure the audience has heard that too. These things are real and they matter. It doesn’t mean that, a la Brent Johnson, that everybody dumps the dollars, the end of the dollar tomorrow, or August 24 last year when the bricks were going to adopt a gold bank currency, right? Never mind all these crazy headlines. The trend that’s happening now, and even Brent would agree with this, the trend is there towards de-dollarization. And the impact.
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of the consequences of Ukraine’s second war with Russia, the second invasion of Ukraine. And now they’re talking about just taking the interest on Russia’s seized money, but it’s still taking Russia’s money. I’m sorry, you can legally massage that all you want. But the point is that they’re taking Russia’s stuff and dollars. So what does that do to anybody else that holds dollars? It’s obvious. And we see the central bank buying of gold. I think it’s a…
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perfectly natural and logical thing. And it’s really interesting to me that we’ve had now two months in a row where China has reported not buying gold. And when the first report like this came out, gold tanked in a very visible way. Second one came out, gold just kind of wobbled. And why? Well, if China wasn’t buying any gold all of June, which I don’t think is true, but let’s say it was, and gold still went up to, within kissing distance of 2400,
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last Friday on the close, without China buying, that tells you it wasn’t just China, which comes back to the first answer to the big, what’s going on now. The trend I see happening now, and I can’t prove this, Danielle, this is a theory, but it’s not just China. It is not just the central banks. My reason for this, the evidence that I can point to is that we saw a hockey stick in gold this year. The gold dollar exchange rate really…
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2300 is the new 2000 in gold, which is like… But the central banks, the global south, they’ve been buying gold for years. That doesn’t explain the change this year. Like, even the new war in the Middle East, that’s last October. And so if you’re gonna be buying gold as a safe haven, because war in the Middle East is not a good thing, right?
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That’s last October. Doesn’t explain the hockey stick this year. It doesn’t. So this is my explanation. Now that doesn’t, again, this isn’t a proof, but my explanation is that we finally reached that Minsky moment, the aha moment, whatever you want to call it, where more and more people are starting to say, you know what, a little bit of allocation to a safe haven lane gold is not a bad thing. Boy, this is a long-winded answer, Daniela, but I am getting to your question. This is another Rick Roll thing, right?
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Right. His thing, his shtick for many years, has been the global average allocation to gold and portfolios over the decades. Four decade mean is 2%. And he’ll tell you, I’m sure he’s told you this, I think it’s currently around 0.5%. So we don’t have to go crazy everybody buying gold if big money around the world simply reverts to mean, that’s a 4X from 0.5 to 2, is a 4X increase in investment demand for gold.
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I think that might be what we’re seeing this year. If it’s not just the Chinese, if it’s not just the central banks, if it’s not just war scare, what is it? There’s not one big headline catalyst you can point to, therefore it’s a shift. Someone somewhere with big money has shifted. I think you’re onto something. Also, I would add on to that because gold is no longer correlated to traditional-
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things we correlated it with, US dollar, yield, whatever the interest rates were. Right, even real interest rates. You’re right. But the whole, I think, Ross Norman had a great article on this. The nighttime sky for gold is unlike anything we’ve ever seen. The constellations have changed. Have changed. Well, I didn’t put it so poetically, and I need to update it, but I wrote an article on this too. Doesn’t that sound beautiful? But the highest correlates since 1971, since Richard Nixon completely severed gold from the gold standard.
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There are multiple variables. And clearly, something like WarScare does move gold. And you can see gold moving directly inversely to the DXY, the dollar index. So therefore, the dollar, supposedly. You can see it on a daily basis. So that’s a factor. Other things, there are multiple factors. There’s no one variable. But the one strongest correlate for 50 years has been real rates.
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It’s been some months now actually, it was late last year, sometime last year, but I ran the correlations and actually nominal rates had a higher correlation than real rates as of last year. Over 50 years, like something has changed. So that poetic constellation may be. But you also are making me think of something else because we, yes, we often use the term gold as a safe haven, but to your point, folks are seeing it as, I wanna replace my dollars with gold.
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I think that’s part of it, but part of it is also, well, the portfolio allocation question is something that I think, I can’t give you a statistic, I don’t have a number here, but I’m seeing this more and more on mainstream financial media, not gold bugs, not Peter Schiff, right? But some guy from B of A or some big hedge fund saying, well, you know, we’re putting a little bit more in gold now. Or like when people say,
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Tina’s broken, what do we do? And somebody says, gold. Like a goon log. Right, right. And before, they used to get laughed at. Yes. Like, you know, what are you gonna do, gold? Like that has gone, that has changed from, what are you gonna do, buy gold? To, well, how about some gold? That’s, if that fits what I’m saying of this change. So, putting the pieces together, and back to your question, which I do remember, believe it or not.
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I think this is happening now. This is a trend that is measurably happening now. And I’m not a technical guy, but for gold to bounce off 2,300 repeatedly and then head back up again, that’s showing some really interesting strength despite a strong dollar and these other things. But the gold stocks have underperformed. This was the question. Yes, this was the original question. I just got lost in your beautiful- My mesmerizing storytelling. Yes, no, no, yes. Okay, no. So this was the question. What the heck’s wrong with the gold stocks?
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There’s a free article on my website, are gold stocks a broken asset? And the truth is that they have underperformed since 2020. They have this huge spike in gold and they’ve been underperforming. So the short version would be this breakout this year, they’re performing. That leverage is back. The mojo is back, if you will. So no, they’re not broken. Now, why did it happen? I don’t know how much time you wanna spend on it. I think there are reasons.
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But the short answer is no. Like we can see this year has demonstrated, you know, gold shocked people, people paid attention to it. And then somebody said, well, how do I get leverage on this? Gold’s working, what gives me leverage to this? And you could see, you know, gold moves 1%. The good quality gold stocks move 3%, 4%, 5%. That’s why we bother buying these stocks at all. And I understand that’s been very disappointing since 2020 for that seemed to be broken.
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But I don’t think it’s just a fluke that we saw this year. I think the reasons why expectations, all kinds of things, why it wasn’t working so well in recent years, I think this breakout this year has brought that back. And if it continues, like if gold goes downhill from here, I mean, if I’m completely wrong, all of us here at this conference are completely wrong. Gold’s going back to $700 like Harry Dent promised us 20 years ago, right? Good old Harry Dent. Good old Harry Dent, right? So yeah, that would be bad, but that’s not what we expect.
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You know if you’re at this conference or probably if you’re watching this interview you do expect the gold dollar exchange rate to go higher and you want your freaking gold stocks to go even higher and I guess if you want to make this the Lobo waves is armed Sorry, Lobo waves is arms scene of the interview. I do think you’ll get your payday I do think those stocks the better ones, you know, not your crappy moose pasture stocks But the ones that have assets that matter actually have any gold. I think you’ll get your payday
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let’s just wrap with this and you’re gonna say well that’s a pretty loaded question to wrap with but you know for the folks who are maybe new to your work that are watching why was gold an answer for you what what attracted you to it? Well that takes us back to history and also the silver it’s funny how you jumped on the silver side because I am Darth Silver after all that’s my other yes Darth my other mantle right I wish I had a cool well aka like that you know anywho right
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So my mother’s from Mexico. I didn’t grow up as a poor kid on the streets in Mexico. I would have made a better story though. But I spent a fair amount of time on the streets of Mexico playing hooky from school and hustling. And I got the bug early and I bought silver coins. I just thought that was really cool. I understood that they had the, somehow, even before
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Ayn Rand or Milton Friedman or anybody else, Adam Smith got hold of my tender little brain. There was something about, or maybe it was being in Mexico and understanding that devaluation happens. Right? I understood that a silver peso was not like the paper peso. It had silver in it. Right, so I started collecting those. And when they chopped four zeros off the peso, I still had the silver. Right, and so…
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In 1980, when the Hunt Brothers cornered the silver market, I’m a paper boy, not a shoeshine boy, but still, I was like the proverbial shoeshine boy giving people advice on their mining stock investments, maybe a contrary indicator back then. I was the paper boy, and I was buying silver. I was saving. At that point, I’m an early teen. I had 13 or something like that. The reason why I’ve written about this, another free article, it was in defense of hard money, and a free article on the website.
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But the reason why was because I had all this experience in Mexico. But in Mexico, not that many people were like me, you know, saving in hard real money. They thought dollars were hard money. And so if you could, if anybody in Mexico had money, you put your money, your savings in dollars because you knew it wouldn’t be inflated away and then the zeros chopped off, like happened in Mexico. And that literally happened to me. I had some babysitting money or something, I don’t know what it was, in dollars and I had some other money in pesos.
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and there was a bank holiday and we woke up the next day and four zeros were gone. So the pesos were just nothing. They weren’t even worth toilet paper because they were too scratchy. Overnight. Like overnight. So I really learned that the dollars were where it was at, right? That’s what I thought. And then I came back to live in the United States again, and this is late 70s, where inflation is high, this is Volcker and all this stuff’s going on. And it was like being, it was just this huge betrayal because I thought that the dollar was my safe haven.
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And then I come back to the United States, see high inflation here, and like, holy crap, that’s like what’s going on in Mexico. The dollar’s not any better than the peso. So silver. And so I understood gold too, but I couldn’t afford gold. We didn’t have crypto, we didn’t have blockchain to give me fractional ownership of tiny amounts of gold. I had to buy the poor man’s gold, silver. So I was a silver stacker back in 1980, and I didn’t quite top the market. I didn’t buy it 50, but I did buy in the mid-20s.
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And then of course it rolled over. Sorry, long story short, I’m underwater on most of my silver for decades, but it was silver, it was savings, I just put it away. And then I had a financial meltdown in 1999, and I was halfway to Costa Rica with a Winnebago full of kids and no money, and the job I thought I had disappeared, just like this huge financial meltdown.
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And I had a briefcase full of silver pesos in Mexico. And these weren’t solid silver pesos. These were these cheesy things that as a kid I could afford these 50s and 60s silver pesos that had like 10, I don’t know what else they had in there. But they had a bit of silver in them, and they looked silvery. So I’m desperate, I’m broke, I go to a pawn shop, and I take a stack of silver pesos. And so this is a 1956 peso, say. By that time, three or four zeros have been chopped off the peso.
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three or four times. Like, if you had a paper peso, you had one millionth of a peso or one billionth of a peso. So I go to the coin shop or the pawn shop with my physical silverish pesos, and guess how much they gave me for them? One peso. I mean, it wasn’t a lot, but there was enough silver in there that they gave me a peso, which at the time was it was, and they had chopped all these zeros off, was actual money. So I-
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I sold silver and I literally went from the pawn shop to the grocery store. And were able to buy some food. And I bought food for my kids while they put together a business plan of what the heck am I going to do now. Wow. Right? So this is what I meant earlier when I said like I actually have this experience in my life of real money saving my family. And you know, that’s not the sort of lesson one forgets easily. So even today, like I have no savings account in a bank. I have a checking account. I have current accounts. And my savings is in bullion.
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Wow, what a story. I’ve known you for all those years, all these years and I never knew that personal story. So thank you for sharing that. I mean that really, I mean I don’t have anything to add. That just makes the point of why. So obviously I’m biased but I you know, I absolutely believe that one should be owning gold or silver. So Lobo Tigre, continue doing good, Gurk. I’m so happy for all your success. Well deserved.
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And we’ll see you soon in the independent speculator. Yes, thank you very much. Thank you. And thank you for watching. We’ll have more great coverage and wow, amazing stories like Lobo’s coming your way. So be sure to stay tuned to the Daniela Cambone show and you can sign up at DanielaCambone.com. Thanks for watching.
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